Forged has ratings and reviews. Bill said: Bart Ehrman is a legitimate scripture scholar who began as a fundamentalist at the Moody Bible Inst. Arguably the most distinctive feature of the early Christian literature, writes Bart Ehrman, is the degree to which it was forged. The Homilies and. Bart D. Ehrman, the New York Times bestselling author of Jesus, Interrupted Forged. Writing in the Name of God–Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We.
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Ehrman, the New York Times bestselling author of Jesus, Interrupted and God’s Problem reveals which books in the New Testament were not passed down by Jesus’ disciples, but were instead forged by other hands–and why this centuries-hidden scandal is far more significant than many scholars are willing to admit. A controversial work of historical reporting in the tradition of Elaine Pagels, Marcus Borg, and John Dominic Crossan, Ehrman’s Forged delivers a stunning explication of one of the most substantial–yet least discussed–problems confronting the world of biblical scholarship.
Forgery and Counterforgery – Bart D Ehrman
Hardcover1st editionpages. Published March 22nd by HarperOne first published March 2nd To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. To ask other readers questions about Forgedplease sign up. So, when he says “forged,” he’s foorged referring to the fact that the Gospels were written by communities of believers? Polished stories told over and over until some of them got written down?
Joel Pearson The gospels are anonymous, so they aren’t technically forged. See 1 question about Forged…. Lists with This Book.
Mar 31, Bill Kerwin rated it liked it. Bart Ehrman is a legitimate scripture scholar who began as a fundamentalist at the Moody Bible Institute and who is now an agnostic teaching at Chapel Hill. He is scrupulously accurate and typically forge, but he does have an ax to grind: The term pseudo-epigraphy–the scholarly term for works f Bart Ehrman is a legitimate scripture scholar who began as a fundamentalist at the Moody Bible Institute and who is now an agnostic teaching at Chapel Hill.
The term pseudo-epigraphy–the scholarly term for works falsely, deliberately attributed to the apostles and disciples and others–should be replaced, he argues, with the term “forgery. Most of them may be well-intentioned, and more than few of them certainly Paul’s epistles to the Hebrews, arguably all four of the gospels may even have made it forgde the canon, but this should not stop us from looking squarely and honestly at what they are. This is an enjoyable and challenging book.
Ehrman’s brief summaries of the contents of many of the non-canonical “forgeries” are particularly informative and entertaining. View all 8 comments. Apr 20, Clif Hostetler rated it it was amazing Shelves: The material covered isn’t new to anyone familiar with critical biblical scholarship. However, Ehrman is different because of the following: He’s willing to call it forgery, lying and deceit where appropriate. He says those who use milder adjectives are not supported by the evidence.
He used to believe the Bible was true without error. He is now writing about the untruths and errors contained in the Bible. His writing style is interesting and clear. He has the academic credentials The material covered isn’t new to anyone familiar with critical biblical scholarship. He has the academic credentials to back up his writing. I suspect that his academic colleagues are jealous because Ehrman is getting rich selling books to the popular audience, while the rest of them are working with the same ehrnan but within the obscurity of the academic world.
Ehrman criticizes many scholars, but I found of special interest his criticism of the book titled The Five Gospels published by the Jesus Seminar because it, “contains at least one statement that scholars would call a ‘howler’. Ehrman says that’s simply not true, and he proceeds to sight various examples from that era of writers complaining of the practice. The assumption behind that is that the early Christian church had torged right, directly from the Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God.
Their thinking was that the fofged were divinely inspired and free of human taint. Unfortunately, modern scholarship has pulled back the veil on those early times and revealed plenty of human shortcomings involved in the development of the New Testament scriptures. I find this new knowledge to be enlightening in that it makes modern humans, by comparison, seem not so disorganized and divided after all.
The truth is still there even when viewed through the lenses of historical knowledge. I am a nominal Roman Catholic. I attend mass once a week; I send my children to Catholic school; my wife teaches at Catholic school; I am a semi-active volunteer in my parish community; I even play in the Sunday evening worship band. Yes, Catholics can have worship bands, too.
Forgery and Counterforgery
For most of my life, up until a few years ago, I would have described myself as an evangelical Christian. I spent my formative years in the Presbyterian Church USA then, for over a decade, I was a member and very active participant in the Evangelical Covenant denomination. I played in the worship band in that church also, and yes, the music was better there … much better … I miss it.
I once found Truth in the Protestant Church, especially in its more evangelical forms. I also find plenty to disagree with in both. Spiritually, I am probably best described as a Teilhardian agnostic.
You already know what an agnostic is; look up Pierre Teilhard de Chardin for the other half of my spiritual equation. I attend mass primarily because I find meaning and sustenance in ehran act and ritual of the Eucharist. Don’t ask me to explain how an agnostic can find meaning in foregd Eucharist; sometimes I can and somethings I can’t.
Just remember that being an agnostic doesn’t mean I don’t believe in a spiritual realm; indeed I very much believe in a spiritual realm. One might even call me a mystic in that respect and I wouldn’t take offense. All of the above is simply to establish who I am and what I believe in the most general terms.
And it’s important for my purposes that you believe what I say is true, that you believe I am who I say I am and I think what I say I think. It’s important to me, in other words, that you believe this review not to be a forgery. I’m not sure how to prove it to your satisfaction. Perhaps there’s some way to track the time the review is posted and the IP address of the computer being used and the GR account used to post the review and the location of the computer.
And perhaps I could present you with a declaration from my wife, signed under penalty of perjury, stating that I stayed up too late one night writing this review and that she was annoyed because the kids had gone to bed and she wanted me to “come to bed” wink wink, nudge nudge and erman review sounds like me and says things that her arrogant bastard husband likely would say.
Or something … I ehdman, look, you’re not going to get a declaration from my wife because she’s asleep and there’s no wink wink, nudge nudge bedtime activities going on tonight.
So why don’t we all just assume, for the sake of argument, that this review is not a forgery? Assume that Ian Foster of Vista, California, actually wrote it and he actually believes the things the review says he believes. Having dispensed with the preliminaries, I’d like to get to ehrmab heart of the matter. I want to discuss this concept called intellectual honesty. The thing is, I don’t believe we are called to a faith that requires us to abandon reason, ignore our perceptions of the world around us, or embrace ignorance.
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Nor do I think we’re called to throw out freedom of intellect and conscience. We shouldn’t have to perform philosophicalhistorical, or logical gymnastics in order to “verify” something we think we ought believe. I’m not arguing that we embrace pure, empirical rationalism, or humanism or secularism. I’m certainly not asserting that we must deny the existence of a supernatural or spiritual realm. I’m absolutely not saying that you or anybody else needs to agree with me on my concept of truth whether capital or lower-case “t”.
I’m simply saying that it’s okay to embrace an intellectually honest faith. I wrote about intellectual honesty in my review of Bart Ehrman’s Jesus Dhrman. In particular I described the ” solo scriptura ” viewpoint as intellectually dishonest; I find it to be so for a number of reasons, most of which I detailed in that review and don’t want to waste space reiterating here. But one of those reasons I want to elaborate upon; it is the subject of Bart Ehrman’s Forged: Writing in the Name fprged Godnamely: When I drop something like this in the lap of a conservative Christian friend, his or her typical response is something like: You mean incorrectly attributed authorship, right?
You don’t really mean forgeddo you? Forgery is immoral … forgery is illegal … forgery is wrong. And we all know the Bible can’t contain anything wrong.
But there’s a reason Bart Ehrman uses those words. He uses them because that’s what he means, negative connotations and all. We’re not talking here about mistaken authorial attribution of a work that, on its face, is written anonymously. That would be a better description of the forted, which were written anonymously and, only a century or two later, were attributed to Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John.
Those are almost certainly mistaken attributions for several empirical and historical reasons, the specifics of which are not the topic of this review. The same is also probably true of Acts and Hebrews. But a number of New Testament books, including six alleged letters of Paul, were forgeries, plain and simple. As we all know, a document can be written anonymously forgec the document itself can make a claim of authorship.
Within the former category are the four gospels plus Acts and Hebrews; none of those six documents makes a claim of authorship on its face. Within the latter category are the remaining 21 books of the New Testament. However, to the surprise of many a Christian, nearly all modern scholars agree that the authorship of only seven of those books is certain.